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Posted: Mon Feb 11th, 2008 09:15 pm |
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Well, having only just got around to looking at this article, all I can say is " Fu**ing good luck to you Rick". I hope the engine is better than the rest of the bodge up. When you say that the project has a budget of £1500, is the price of the original purchase in this, if so you ain,t got a lot to work with. It rules out most of the nice goodies that you can get for Tritons. Certainly theres no way a Rev-counter could be fitted as a timing cover with a drive in would be £100 or so on its own, BUT, no self respecting rocker would be seen dead without one fitted to his bike.
Good luck Rick.
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Posted: Tue Feb 12th, 2008 11:04 pm |
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Thanks, the way it works out, there is about £500 for parts. In theory we try to blag what we can but it isn't always so easy. And no, the only rev counter will be the tingling of the sphincter through the thinly padded seat!
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Posted: Wed Feb 13th, 2008 12:10 am |
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Would it be economically viable to machine the timing cover to take a revcounter-drive? Cafe racer without a revcounter is like fish without chips. 
Will be very interesting to see what solutions are found to various issues - rear mudguard /seat interface etc.
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Posted: Wed Feb 13th, 2008 12:11 am |
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Would it be economically viable to machine the timing cover to take a revcounter-drive? Cafe racer without a revcounter is like fish without chips.
Will be very interesting to see what solutions are found to various issues - rear mudguard /seat interface etc.
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Posted: Wed Feb 13th, 2008 08:00 am |
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Surely a revcounter is just extra unnecessary weight ?
I thought that part of the cafe racer 'thing' was the junking of superfluous items ?
The fact that the bike was built without one in the first place gives the lie to your comment young Velton !
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Posted: Wed Feb 13th, 2008 09:26 am |
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We did some cafe racing at the weekend, The Ace to the tea stand in Ashord middx, not only didn't we need a rev counter but we only needed 2 gears such is the momentum of London traffic .
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Posted: Wed Feb 13th, 2008 11:27 am |
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Rick Parkington wrote: Thanks, the way it works out, there is about £500 for parts. In theory we try to blag what we can but it isn't always so easy. And no, the only rev counter will be the tingling of the sphincter through the thinly padded seat!
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You've put a picture in my head that has absolutely no right to be in there 
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Posted: Wed Feb 13th, 2008 02:40 pm |
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Well, Gus, my 1967 Velton has never had a working rev-counter (yet) so it certainly was not unknown. Though neither is it unknown for people to eat fish without chips!
Many cafe-racers were built to tight budgets and remained works "in progress" afterwards, but a rev-counter was definitely something to aspire to. Also, some Tritons were tourers where rev-counters were not so "de rigueur" maybe.
I suppose that I wouldn't be too heart-broken to win the Triton and have to supply my own tachometer!
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Posted: Wed Feb 13th, 2008 02:47 pm |
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Guy's as a young whipper snapper who's been brought up on a diet of rice burners  I'm keen to find out what ingredients make the perfect triton...obviously wideline is prefered to slimline , right 
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Posted: Wed Feb 13th, 2008 02:52 pm |
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"Perfect" Triton is a very personal subject, but a Manx frame would probably be a good start.
Lighter than the road frames, recognisable from different curvature on top rear frame loop and little racing number-plate mountings on rear subframe. (If my memory serves me well.)
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Posted: Wed Feb 13th, 2008 02:55 pm |
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would you need to use the tapered manx swingarm as well ? and a nice conical rear hub
guess a quaife box would be on the wish list?
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Posted: Wed Feb 13th, 2008 04:06 pm |
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I'm not a great fan of chips, so often eat fish without them !
In the past when I messed about and modified every bike I owned I used to favour a large central speedometer and no revcounter.
Maybe the two are connected !
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Posted: Wed Feb 13th, 2008 04:59 pm |
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TBS, Don't know whether you "need" to use the Manx swinging arm as well but it would be the cool option - unless using a box-section instead.
Gearboxes? Don't know, another personal choice area.
Engines? Similarly.
Personally, I think the T150 motor looks superb in a featherbed frame of whichever variety. T150V gives 5 gears, enough for me. Maybe one day?
Brakes? Damn great multi-leading-shoe, twin-sided drum would be the obvious, expensive choice. Twin discs arguably the best.
Honestly, I never felt the need for more braking power than the standard Dominator SLS front brake on the Velton. Although a Commando type 2LS is on the list for the current (eternal) rebuild.
Gus, your "logic" as as weird as mine!
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Posted: Wed Feb 13th, 2008 05:29 pm |
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Maybe all those chips go straight to the hips, thus deadening the vibration from that over-revved engine !
Meanwhile ole Snake-Hips here can feel every nuance of his mean machine !
Or maybe I just liked the 'clean' look of those old Vincents with their dirty great huge Smiths speedo stuck right in the middle ?
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Posted: Wed Feb 13th, 2008 05:33 pm |
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How does one enter the competition online as the CB website left me feeling puzzled.
Ta,
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Posted: Wed Feb 13th, 2008 06:19 pm |
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Deano wrote: How does one enter the competition online as the CB website left me feeling puzzled.
Ta,
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Dunno whether I should tell you - it cuts down on my chances of winning it !
Oh Ok then !
The Compo is here:
http://www.greatcompetitions.co.uk/admin/comp_login.asp?id=448&pg=clb
Answer the p*ss easy question and you're in.
You do have to be registered before you can enter, but it's hardly onerous - and you can then enter all the competitions all over the site.
You'll find that these days, if it's the first time you've entered a competition in a particular section (ie 'bikes') you'll get asked a couple of dozy marketing type questions - just lie !
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Posted: Wed Feb 13th, 2008 08:17 pm |
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The point is that by its very essence a triton aspires to be a road going race bike of the late 50s and 60s. So looking at the project with that in mind, you have to be aware of what were the essentials of that period. When I built my Triton (which can be viewed in the bikes and projects section) I was trying to build the bike I would have loved to have owned back in the 60s. Back then I built a Dommi Racer which was more of a cosmetic job, as Rick rightly puts in his piece, tank, seat, front guard and fairing were all fibre glass, where as on the Triton I used alloy tanks. Its not a case of saving weight as such, yes all unnecessary bits and bobs were removed, but the fitting of a Rev-counter was an essential, I had a conical manx clock on my Dommi. I agree to a certain ammount that a caferacer or indeed any special should be what the builder wants and should reflect that, but there is such a thing as the right look, and that is what you should aspire to when building the bike.
Take a look at the VINTON in this months copy, nothing more could be done to that machine to make it anymore ideal for its type, it is perfection. Thats not to say that those who take a more modern approach when building such bikes have got it wrong, but you have to chose between modern or classic when it comes to the look.
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Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 09:54 am |
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Rick Parkington wrote: Thanks, the way it works out, there is about £500 for parts. In theory we try to blag what we can but it isn't always so easy. And no, the only rev counter will be the tingling of the sphincter through the thinly padded seat!
R
I was particularly impressed with the speedo mounting. Since this isn't going to be retained, maybe you could mount it on a piece of wood with a little plaque and award this as a separate 'wooden spoon' prize for the duffest feature on any of the restored bikes so far?
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Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 11:33 am |
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It's a thought, but I might win it...I have preserved said bracket and will probably pass it on to the eventual winner.
IRO rev counters etc, have a heart - someone's getting this bike for nowt - never mind a rev counter, on this budget you're lucky it isn't a Cub engine in a Jubilee frame!
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Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 02:08 pm |
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Rick Parkington wrote: It's a thought, but I might win it...I have preserved said bracket and will probably pass it on to the eventual winner.
IRO rev counters etc, have a heart - someone's getting this bike for nowt - never mind a rev counter, on this budget you're lucky it isn't a Cub engine in a Jubilee frame!
R
I think it'd be a nice touch - with a photo of the handover of the bracket to a lucky winner/reader.
I didn't mention the rev counter - but I did wonder how fuel-tight the tank is. I know those fibreglass ones from the 60s and 70s had a habit of leaking - I'm at work and don't have CB in front of me but I seem to remember it was a fibreglass one.
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