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TheMightyGusset
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Posted: Mon Feb 25th, 2008 03:37 pm |
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Lang wrote: TheMightyGusset wrote: Oy !
Stop spoiling things for those of us who haven't got this months issue yet !
Bloody Subscribers !
Subscribe then  I prefer to help fill EMAP's coffers by paying full price !
I also like to help support my local newsagent in the face of stiffening competition from the $uperm*rkets.
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Posted: Mon Feb 25th, 2008 07:50 pm |
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Velton wrote: Anyone fancy getting a Triton without waiting for the Competition?
This looks like a bargain, if it's to your taste.......
Triton Cafe Racer Motorcycle
(£3,495 in Buxton, sort of touring style.)
Nah! About a £1000 too dear.
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TheMightyGusset
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Posted: Tue Feb 26th, 2008 12:28 pm |
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Rick Parkington wrote: Well I believe the Editor's wife does do good sculptures...
Thank God For YouTube !
Rezillos - I love my baby cos she does good sculptures
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Posted: Tue Feb 26th, 2008 11:15 pm |
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Hmm, thanks Gus an amiable diversion. Fair play to my former Guvnor and his chums, the Sculptures and Flying Saucer attack videos on that link are separated by nearly thirty years. They've all aged a lot less in that time than have!
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 02:05 pm |
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Hurrah !
I've now got the March issue and can read the latest instalment !
Rather you than me Rick !
Although I guess that you've been around old bikes long enough now that you had a fair idea what sort of mess you were going to find before you started !
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 09:14 pm |
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TheMightyGusset wrote: Hurrah !
I've now got the March issue and can read the latest instalment !
Rather you than me Rick !
Although I guess that you've been around old bikes long enough now that you had a fair idea what sort of mess you were going to find before you started !
I read thru the Triton piece in more detail last night. That engine looks in terrible shape - the worst yet.
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Posted: Sat Mar 1st, 2008 04:01 pm |
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This old triton is a gem. Lets keep it as it was originally built as much as possible and do as little to it as has to be to get it on the road.
The really rare and important bikes we have today, are as-built and original examples of the types of the sixties and earlier, whether they are cafe-bikes, customs or dead original bikes with the paint put on them at the factory.
They are all historic documents that are indisputable proof of the way it actually was back then. All the cafe bikes built in the last twenty years based on british iron are mostly how thier biulders "want" history to be, not how it actually was.
I have an old 650ss Norton that was made into a cafe-racer in the sixties. It was originally put together with glass tanks, Home-made and engine-turned plates, Tickle top-yoke and headlight mounts, Dunstall rearsets, a garden-gate manx rear wheel, a manx tls back plate made to fit in it's road front hub, wassel seat. Then the engine is un-reproducable today, the over the top porting, oddball sifton cam, aluminum valve collars, polished rockers and rods, 600 domed pistons etc.....
It would be less work for me to throw all the old $hit out and buy a bunch of new cookie-cutter cafe-boutique parts, but I would never do that. I will preserve as much as possible the work of the original builders, even if it takes me ten times longer and the bike is not as practical when it is done. IT WASN'T A PRACTICAL BIKE WHEN IT WAS FIRST BUILT! It was a tempermental, uncomfortable bitch that took a lot of know how and elbow grease to produce those few magical hours on the highway, at full throttle going around a fast bend........
Well that is some of my take on it.........
Here is some old original-paint dommie. Once they are all restored, who will be able to say what was what?
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Posted: Sat Mar 1st, 2008 11:46 pm |
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We are all wasting our time "advising" Rick what to do with the bike. It is appearing at the Scottish Bike show next week, which tells me it is just about built, or at least all the important decisions have been made and acted upon  
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Posted: Sun Mar 2nd, 2008 09:41 am |
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I reckon Rick would have had his ideas for the bike well before we saw it ,specials can't be built by committees,its an individual thing 
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Posted: Mon Mar 3rd, 2008 12:20 pm |
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jimmy wrote: We are all wasting our time "advising" Rick what to do with the bike. It is appearing at the Scottish Bike show next week, which tells me it is just about built, or at least all the important decisions have been made and acted upon
Ummm, yes you would think so wouldn't you, Jimmy...unfortunately the crank/rebore will not be back till end of the week, the glass tank is not going to be fixed up in time, the plating is on an 8 week turnaround, I haven't made the footrests yet and the pick-up is out of Mot and not likely to get one due to non standard holes in its vital parts. So, in summary, the bike isn't finished, I only have half an engine and half the bodywork. I don;t have the bits to bolt it all together but all this pales behind the fact that I have no vehicle to get it to the show with, so this week I'll be mostly welding the pick up!
Sportspecial, I agree, preservation rather than restoration has always been my philosophy. My favourite jobs are making piles of autojumble bits look like unrestored barn finds and fitting genuine period accessories etc. However, the intention here is to compromise and make the Triton like a better-built example of what was done in its day, so it's certainly not going to be a 2 wheeled unity equipe catalogue but equally it isn't my bike, someone will win it and I have learned from experience that exact replicas of 'how they were in their day' are difficult to sell ie they are not popular with the majority, this bike needs to have reasonably universal appeal but I left on the home made fairing bracket for example because I agree. To many bikes lose their life story in restoration.
AS to 'the plan'; well, it kind of evolves as it goes along. This weekend I was away to my folks and picked up some red paint my dad had left over from one of his projects, so it's going to be red. Why not? To my mind the big issue here is that it is NOT a no-expense spared job. I am doing what I always do with my own bikes. If I have a usable second hand bit I'll use it. I am not replacing everything that is blemished because I think it's wasteful. My goal is to make a tidy usable bike - but not a show winner. I want to see people riding not pushing on and off trailers and the aim of these restoration features is to illustrate that it doesn;t have to be prohibitively expensive to get an old bike on the road, and done on a reasonable budget, you can ride it without being paranoid about getting it wet or dirty. Doubtless some will expect the finished bike to be concours but I just don't see the point of writing an article about how to spend money.
Hope this makes sense!
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 01:34 am |
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Rick I wholeheartedly agree.
When I got my Starfire I was looking at doing a balls to the wall restoration on it even though I don't know bugger all. But the more I looked things over the more it clicked that with the exception of a few things that were totally gone such as the rubber bits, the rest was totally serviceable.
So instead of trying to do up a show stopper, it's just gonna be a cosmetic clean up and restoration. And unlike the Triton, I don't have a schedule that has to adhered to so I can work on it or not as the mood, money, weather and SWMBO dictate.
Keeping the Triton as a working/riding bike and not a trailer queen is a much better way to go. Whoever wins the thing can do it up the way they want to if something isn't to their liking I think, after all it will be theirs in the near future.
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Posted: Mon Mar 10th, 2008 09:21 pm |
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Rick,
Just read the ol' March mag update, 
How do you stay motivated?????
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Posted: Mon Mar 10th, 2008 09:34 pm |
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Posted: Mon Mar 10th, 2008 09:43 pm |
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But seriously, folks, many moons ago I found I was really starting to enjoy the problem solving aspect of old bikes. Like everything else, the more you do the better you get at it and the less you fear.
I soon learned that you should tackle the worst problem first, or the most tedious, basically the one you least want to think about otherwise whatever else you fix that problem will loom ever larger and put you off. Once you've done the horrors the rest seems like a breeze.
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Posted: Tue Mar 11th, 2008 12:27 pm |
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Rick Parkington wrote: Once you've done the horrors the rest seems like a breeze.
R
Yep, works for women too !
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Posted: Tue Mar 11th, 2008 02:32 pm |
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So have you decided to go the 9 stud head route then Rick? the last pic on the march update appears to be a bit of a give-away
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Posted: Tue Mar 11th, 2008 04:20 pm |
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Well spotted...but no. When i took the picture I had already been and vapourblasted all the bits so I had to dig out a few grubby bits to put in the box.
It's all done with mirrors and wires... I'm just glad you didn't spot that my shed joins to a massive industrial unit, staffed by a team of ex-Formula One technicians who do all the work while I'm getting my make up done for the pictures.
Cucumber sandwich, anybody?
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Posted: Tue Mar 11th, 2008 04:52 pm |
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Rick Parkington wrote:
Cucumber sandwich, anybody?
Don't mind if I do ta !
*Munches*
Hmmmm !
I don't mean to be critical, but if you could slice up a spicy pickled onion in the next one ?
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Posted: Tue Mar 11th, 2008 11:57 pm |
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| Riff raff
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Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 11:18 am |
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Rick Parkington wrote: Riff raff Who Me ?
Have you tried Barry Norman's Pickled Onions ?
The perfect accompaniment to a cheese and cucumber sarnie.
Which is, in turn, the perfect accompaniment to a difficult engine rebuild.
I suppose you, living up there in heathen land, are more likely to go for a bottle of Irn Bru and a Tunnocks Caramel Wafer when things get awkward.
I suppose the Irn Bru is useful for freeing off rusty nuts and bolts but you dont want crumbly bits of wafer getting into your oilways.
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