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 Posted: Thu Feb 21st, 2008 07:54 pm

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Rick Parkington wrote: Thanks for the reassurance. You're right it is pretty solid but a lot of pug on the underside so I'm getting a mate to check it out - he's good with glass-fibre. I'm also investigating sealant - POR15 from Frost looks favourite at the moment. The guy there says the manufacturers don;t reccommend it for glass but it seems to work ok anyway.

I wanted to go classic Manx colours but those wacky boys at Peterborough siad seventies. We are compromising. It will be dove grey frame with bright red cycle parts, sort of like a late A65 or a Continntal GT. I think it will look quite nice and a bit different.

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OH MY GOD!!! It will certainly make a statement. Grey frames get shi**y in no time, and as for red leave that to the ducati owners.

The mags title is CLASSIC BIKE . Not " look at me I,m a weirdo. They used to blame the unnatural behaviour of Fenfolk on wading up to their knees in water, and latter on smelling cooking sugarbeet for months on end. RICK! Do the bike you way.



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Trust me, it'll be fine. Grey will show the dirt but that will just ensure the 'lucky winner' has to keep it clean and polished...

The original editorial suggestion was either to reproduce the original colour scheme of blue and yellow or to paint it like the project bike Motorcycle Mechanics did in the late sixties - red frame and yellow tank but I wasn't having that. My first proper bike was an ex WD B40 BSA with a yellow frame and metllic pea-green tinware, then I bought my NOrton cafe raver and that was metallic aquamarine frame with dark green tank and yellow oil  tank, then it was another Dommie with metallic blue frame and dark blue tank and a Fanny B that looked like an accident in a paint shop...I don't look back on seventies paintjobs very fondly I cna tell you but it was seeing the frame in grey primer alongside the red carpet at the London show that changed my mind. I wouldn't paint my own bike that colour for practicality but I reckon it'll look quite good and anyway, the winner's getting it buckshee, if he doesn't like it he can repaint it!

 

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Rick Parkington wrote: Well I believe the Editor's wife does do good sculptures...
I she 'feeling glad all over?"

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NO!

(because you're not old enough...) This could go on two whole albums, and they've just done a new one

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Who could forget the famous "COLOURED SOUND". Well I had till you reminded me Rick. I,m going to look that article up, as I recall there was a full colour front page  picture that would be worth scanning to let those less fortunate have a gander.



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That's the fella. Course with any luck, since we're going down a 'for those with a collection of Motorcyle Mechanics magazines' road, maybe next time I'll get to do a replica of Brian Lecomber's project bike in that noble organ...anyone know what I'm talking about?

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Rick Parkington wrote: That's the fella. Course with any luck, since we're going down a 'for those with a collection of Motorcyle Mechanics magazines' road, maybe next time I'll get to do a replica of Brian Lecomber's project bike in that noble organ...anyone know what I'm talking about?

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I think that might have been a Vincent/Norton. But is he still doing airborne somersaults;)



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[img]http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:PVlyXIoJ33MbfM:http://www.deltaweb.co.uk/eagles/shows/southport01_13.jpg[/img]Brian Lecomber - lead pilot


Brian began his professional display career 23 years ago with the Rothmans Aerobatic Team. After two years with Rothmans he founded Firebird in 1981. He has now flown more than 1,900 public displays - almost certainly a world record for any one pilot. He has been British Freestyle Aerobatic Champion, and has won many 'best display' awards at major shows such as the Royal International Air Tattoo, Biggin Hill, and RAF Waddington. He is a Type Rating Examiner and Display Evaluator for the CAA.

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Yes, but what happened to the Norvin??!!

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Rick Parkington wrote: NO!

(because you're not old enough...) This could go on two whole albums, and they've just done a new one


'Someone's gonna get their head kicked in tonight'

I've only got the first album tho as my turntable is sitting on a shelf in the bedroom cupboard I haven't played any of my vinyl in a long time.

I remember when my elder sister first went to see the Rezillos, must have been 77 or 78, and she came in and said how great they were. For us Scots, it was nice to have a band from our side of the border at the time (followed shortly after by the Skids, Orange Juice and a few others). I haven't seen the Rezillos/Revillos play since the 80s, tho my sister saw them up in Inverness last year.

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Rick Parkington wrote: Trust me, it'll be fine. Grey will show the dirt but that will just ensure the 'lucky winner' has to keep it clean and polished...

The original editorial suggestion was either to reproduce the original colour scheme of blue and yellow or to paint it like the project bike Motorcycle Mechanics did in the late sixties - red frame and yellow tank but I wasn't having that. My first proper bike was an ex WD B40 BSA with a yellow frame and metllic pea-green tinware, then I bought my NOrton cafe raver and that was metallic aquamarine frame with dark green tank and yellow oil  tank, then it was another Dommie with metallic blue frame and dark blue tank and a Fanny B that looked like an accident in a paint shop...I don't look back on seventies paintjobs very fondly I cna tell you but it was seeing the frame in grey primer alongside the red carpet at the London show that changed my mind. I wouldn't paint my own bike that colour for practicality but I reckon it'll look quite good and anyway, the winner's getting it buckshee, if he doesn't like it he can repaint it!

 


Grey frames are fine by me - my Ducati has one. A mere hint of metalflake would probably help.

I was reading the piece. Is it really no problem if the head has a few cracks? It sounds like the engine internals have a few problems too. Do you think you'll be able to keep it on budget?

 

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Werll, the budget is creaking a bit. It didn't help having to get another set of rods. The cracked head is a moot point. All it really causes is an oil leak into the stud hole, making the stud gooey when it comes out. The very worst example I ever saw was on my mates T110 that had begun to burn away around the crack but that was way back when we were 'erberts and probably had more to do with mixture/timing faults than the crack itself. 

The other thing is, this hasn't happened recently. These cracked heads have been working fine on these bikes for years. They probably cracked in the first few thousand miles on the road - the alloy head came out '56 or '57 and by the time the unit models appeared in '63 they had fitted a modified head so they were obviously aware of the problem within 5 years production. 

I think it becomes more of a problem the more you try to do about it, welding sounds risky unless you remove the valve seat and then there's the danger of it loosening if it cracks again. Casting my mind back I have a horrible suspicion my mate's head only started to burn after we sleeved it with a 10mm dowell - probably pressed it too tight and opened the crack up. I can't remember now but I'm beginning to think the best thing is to leave well alone.

It's funny, I remember throwing out my alloy T110 head because it was cracked but I wish I could go back and say "Why, what problem is it causing?" There was no physical problem. I stuck an ugly nine stud onto it and finally a nice ported iron head which it has to this day.

I also recall having kittens when I found a crack in the Morris pickup cylinder head and hurried to get a replacement before the world exploded. Some while later my mate told me he counted 20 cracks in his diesel van head last time he had it off but it still ran ok. 

Don't panic,don;t paniiic!

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Rick Parkington wrote: Yes, but what happened to the Norvin??!!
You,ve got me there Rick, without climbing into the loft to dig out the issue I would,nt know, enlighten me.



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That was what Brian Lecomber built in MM, described on the cover as Vin-nor, complete with lightning flashes.

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I sleeved the head bolt holes on a mates 8 stud,but like you say,they will run ok with the cracks. There must be thousands out there running fine on em,i know mine did years ago :) 

 



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One of the former owners of my former firm had a Frazer Nash and told me the head was full of cracks. It ran ok and this was a common problem amongst cars of its era.

To be honest, I can't remember if the head on my T100 was cracked. But then it never ran right, so it didn't matter.

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Oy !
Stop spoiling things for those of us who haven't got this months issue yet !
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Anyone fancy getting a Triton without waiting for the Competition?

This looks like a bargain, if it's to your taste.......

Triton Cafe Racer Motorcycle

(£3,495 in Buxton, sort of touring style.)

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TheMightyGusset wrote: Oy !
Stop spoiling things for those of us who haven't got this months issue yet !
Bloody Subscribers !

Subscribe then :D:D:D



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Velton wrote: Anyone fancy getting a Triton without waiting for the Competition?
This looks like a bargain, if it's to your taste.......
Triton Cafe Racer Motorcycle
(£3,495 in Buxton, sort of touring style.)
Nah !
It's Right Hand Drive !
I prefer my motorcycles to be a bit more 'Central'



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