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Posted: Tue Sep 16th, 2008 06:00 am |
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Well as promised, here it is.
As previously mentioned its not actually my bike or restoration but I will be keeping an eye on it.
The bike in question
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Posted: Sat Sep 20th, 2008 08:59 am |
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Now this is the story.
Many years ago a friend if mine called Jem bought this (I think its a 1977) Noddy with the intention of restoring it. Its been nearly 6 years sat in his shed but he has finally gotten round to it. He asked me to give him a hand in it transformation but I'm already having doubts cause I can see loads of problems.
First off we stripped the frame to see what we had to work with.
At first glance you could see it definitley needed a new rear mudguard


but it gets worse. after stripping a bit more we find the the part of the mudguard that is welded into the frame has disapeared from rust.
Your not meant to see the tire here and the frame is badly pitted.
Ah well never mind, we can make a new one and weld it back in.

So we carry on
then we have a look at the swinging arm, the cross section has been completley rusted through and what steel is left is wafer thin. Still we soldier on, even that can be fixed.

Untill finally we are left with just a frame, or what is left of the frame. nearly all of the plate steel parts of the frame have either disappeared or have been rusted wafer thin.
it needs a lot of work, too much in my opinion but Jem started to clean it up anyway. He did however ask me to keep a lookout for a swinging arm on ebay and even another Noddy.

Now after days of trying to clean up the frame, even after managing to fit it in the sandblasting cabinet he was getting a bit weary and the frame wasn't looking any better, in fact it was looking worse when the rust was blasted off. But to cheer him up I told him I managed to get another noddy and that he owed me £100.
Now when the other bike arrived I had a hard time persuading him to put his good engine in this one cause its enging was a non runner with a broken kickstart shaft and sheared off screwheads and even this, strange and pointless

but he argued that the serial numbers wouldn't match so he carried on with his frame, until it beat him.It now lies in the corner of the shed but at some point we might give it another go

the plan now is to use the new frame and split the engine casings so the serial numbers will match with the logbooks. Can someone tell me if this is possible or even allowed.
The new Bike.
I love this, its absolutly brilliant but also a bit strange.
As said the engine was a bit worse for wear, the tank had more rust inside then petrol and it had no indicators. Both mudguards where very good though.
Sorry I don't have any pics. But after stripping it all down and peeling the black gloss paint off a few bits we discovered this
It had been painted green. Now I'm hoping someone can shed some light here for me because I can tell someone did one hell of a job here.
It looks like the bike was completly stripped down to the frame and all of its original black paint removed when it was new, then it was primed, undercoated and painted green?
Its just a bit of a mystery to me as to who would put that much work into changing the colour, even Honda didn't go to that lenght painting them.
All I can think of is the Army but its a very light green and the tins look like they where left alone unless there not the originals.
Well anyway, beside from some surface rust the frame is in perfect condition and its because of its unusual paintjob. Its later owner obviously realised that green was s*** so painted black gloss over it.
Oh yeah, that blue Noddy in the back is the latest edition but its in very good condition so its being left for a full restoration later on.
I apologies for all the rambling but i thought you would like some backround( crap, I'm doing it again)
Untill next time.
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Posted: Sat Sep 20th, 2008 09:18 am |
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Time to strip the paint.
One blow torch, one wirebrush and an hour (with tea breaks) later the frame is practically done




And trying not to set fire to your wirebrush
And heres that bit the other frame was missing. I'll have to take a mould of that so i can make a replacement.

And ten seconds later, shiney steel.
We should be able to paint the frame tonight after taking care of that surface rust

Now wait till I star telling you about the engine rebuild and why bits of it look like this


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Posted: Sat Sep 20th, 2008 10:29 am |
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| Excellent Sherro! I look forward to more instalments.
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Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 02:30 am |
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Do you remember those mudguards I said were O.K.
Look at them now with no paint


Well they still are ok, what would you expect after 33 years.
And considering the other one
We'll cut all that F/G and filler out and weld up the holes.
Oh yeah, the story of the polished engine casings.
When I was rebuilding a car engine of mine I had polished the aluminium Cam Cover so when Jem saw it he insisted on polishing every bit of aluminium on the Noddy.

I even pointed out that they where originally only painted but he is now obsessed.
I even had to source stainless steel nut and bolts similer to the originals and polish them up as well
Shiney new cylinder head nuts

He is now polishing everything




I think he gave up the idea of polishing the entire engine(thank God)
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Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 12:15 pm |
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Nice job though Sherro

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Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 05:28 pm |
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is that c*r block a cossie?
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Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 01:59 am |
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Hooli wrote: is that c*r block a cossie?
If only. Its its replacement though, or was. Its the Duratec found in the ST and RS.
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Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 06:00 am |
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Back to the bike.
Now most of you here probably know this already but I would just like to explain it.
This is the side casing from the Noddy we are using as spares. Now as you can see one of the screws for the oil filter cover siezed at some point and the previous owner was a bit confused as to how to remove it.
They obviously stripped out the head so in a effort to get a purchase welded something on, but now that I think about it it might have been brazed on. Well anyway, it didn't hold so as a last resort they tried to hacksaw through the cover but that was pointless as it protrudes into the casing about 30mm.
Now the head on this screw has been completly obliterated so its out with the Dremel to cut a slot into it

Then out with the impact driver

And Hey Presto

Just thought I'd post this because moments before I took the pics Jem had a hammer and chisel trying to get the screw out even though he has the proper tools(see what I have to work with)
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Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 08:18 pm |
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Sherro wrote: Hooli wrote: is that c*r block a cossie?
If only. Its its replacement though, or was. Its the Duratec found in the ST and RS.
shame cant beat a 205 block 
looks like the bike is progressing too.
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 01:12 am |
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Hooli wrote:
shame cant beat a 205 block 
True, or can you. I don't think anyones really pushed a Duratec to see how far it could go.
Designed by Yamaha you know.
Well enough about my car, it has its own build diary, this is thread about a Noddy.
Yesterday Jem got a free welder off his brother, its one of Aldi's or Lidl's No gas MIGs.
In fairness its not completly crap but I'll convert it to gas anyway.
Now Jem can Arc weld but he's never Mig or Tig welded before so I gave him a few pointers. And to be frank, I'm a crap welder.
Now despite never using a Mig and using a crappy gasless one Jem decided to practice on what?
Yep, the good mudguard

I'm not gonna show you the results, lets just say he finally agreed to do a bit more practice on something else.
We also broke down the supposedly knackered engine with the broken kick shaft only to discover IMHO that it was actually in very good condition.
Then Jem started polishing bits of it


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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 05:21 pm |
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I'm very impressed with your work I've a Noddy that I thought was the worst possible project to start with. I'm very impressed with the pollishing you've done. What do you use?
Looks like your fenders were corroded where the wiring tunnel goes and then repaired. They're nearly all like that.
Send me a mail at supernoddy@yahoo.ie for a chat about any parts you need. I've bought a lot at this stage so might be able to help. Keep up the good work
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